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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #88
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Sat, 29 Jan 94 Volume 94 : Issue 88
-
- Today's Topics:
- CW filters and DSP-9 (2 msgs)
- FCC: Whats taking so long????
- FCC form 610-V (2 msgs)
- htx-202 or dj-162 ?
- Is portable radio use possible in remote wilderness areas?
- Is there a faq list for GMRS?
- Need info on CCW
- Of Wouff Hongs and Royal Rites (2 msgs)
- QST Article on Balloon Tracking using GPS Rcvr
- RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER
- Sideband Technology Inc.
- Where is FAQ on EMF?
-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 94 09:46:49 GMT
- From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!uos-ee!ee.surrey.ac.uk!M.Willis@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: CW filters and DSP-9
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CK95Mz.Krt@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, alanb@sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
- |> Ignacy Misztal (ignacy@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
- |> : wvanhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William E Van Horne) writes:
- |>
- |> : >Kein{nen Paul wrote:
- |>
- |> : >Can someone with a great deal more technical knowledge than I have
- |> : >state just what is the minimum usable bandwidth for a 10-20 WPM CW
- |> : >signal, and how much audible ringing is truly inescapable?
- |>
- |> : I assume that G is an average-size letter in Morse and the
- |> : transmission is at 120 wpm (2 characters/s). ...
- |>
- |> 120 wpm is 2 WORDS per second, or about 10 characters per second.
- |>
- |> In my previous posting, I analyzed the required bandwidth based on
- |> a ringing fall-off rate of three time constants during the "off"
- |> time between dits and dahs. Ignacy's method of looking at the
- |> frequency content of the baseband signal (i.e. the keying rate)
- |> is also valid.
- |>
- |> The highest pulse repetition frequency is when you are sending a
- |> string of dits (for example, the letter H or the number 5.)
- |> My previous example of 48 wpm results in 20 dots per second.
- |> A Morse code signal can be considered to be an AM (ampltidude
- |> modulated) signal that is 100% modulated with a square wave, in
- |> this case a 20 Hz square wave. Since an AM signal has two sidebands,
- |> the bandwidth must be at least 40 Hz.
-
- I suppose that is one way of looking at it. Another is to assume morse is simply
- made up of dots, followed either by a space or another dot, giving all the
- combinations necessary. The highest frequency signal is the error, 8 dots. At a
- speed of 12 wpm (UK test value) we have 5 dots per second, requiring a minimum
- bandwidth of 10 Hz for an am carrier (5 Hz for PSK) when using a brick wall filter
- and loads of ringing, or about double the bandwidth with a nice ring free response.
-
- It seems if we were to use PSK rather than AM for CW we would gain 3 dB! The PA must
- operate at 100% duty cycle but at least you can run it in class E. However if
- you try and use a 20 Hz filter (or even 100Hz) for CW reception you notice a few
- things, one is that stations drift quite a bit and another is that stations rarely
- reply to callswithin 20 Hz of your transmit frequency. There is also quite a bit of
- phase noise close to the carrier, especially with synthesised rigs which will reduce
- the signal to noise ratio.
-
- For modes like Aurora and EME, the dispersion of the signal and doppler will make
- the filter un-usable. I would expect the limit on receiver bandwidth with DSP
- filters is more to do with the received signal characteristics than ringing.
-
- Mike
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jan 1994 16:32:25 GMT
- From: news.cstar.andersen.com!news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!rdewan@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: CW filters and DSP-9
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CK95xn.L1H@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, Alan Bloom <alanb@sr.hp.com> wrote:
- >Rajiv Dewan (rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:
- >
- >..
- >: Each dot is encoded by an dot time length on and a dot time length off, i.e., a
- >: cycle of twice the dot lenght. This is like multiplying a 50Hz square wave
- >: with a 750 Hz tone. To maintain some semblance of square shape,
- >: one would want to include the fundamental and at least the third harmonic.
- >: This results in a minimum bandwidth of 150Hz. ...
- >
- >It's actually twice that, since the modulated 750 Hz tone has two sidebands.
- >
- >AL N1AL
- >
-
- Yes. It will be just like 100% amplitude modulation of 750Hz carrier with
- a 50Hz square tone. Thanks for correcting me. I had lost sight of the
- carrier. I was thinking of a DC square wave. Again, assuming that
- the third harmonic is relevant for no ringing in the output, the minimum
- bandwidth is 60Hz (for 20wpm). This is for no ringing in the output.
-
- If one just considers the ability to copy a signal and accept ringing
- provided that it permits copying of the signal, then
- the minimum would drop. I have copied 20wpm signals while using a 30Hz
- bandwidth FIR filter in the W9GR unit. There was lots of ringing but
- I could still copy. The ringing could have been from insufficient
- bandwidth or pinking of the noise by the narrow filter.
-
- It may be that the fundamental is enough for copying but that more bandwidth
- is needed to curtail ringing.
-
- Rajiv
- aa9ch
- r-dewan@nwu.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Jan 94 23:05:14 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: FCC: Whats taking so long????
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >My god, ive been paitently waiting for my call sign to come in... it's been
- >well over 9 weeks now, and it still hasn't arrived.... Does anyone know
- >--
- >Larry.....
- >haga@zach.fit.edu
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^ *!*
- what the..?! did you take your test on-campus, larry, or some place else?
- when i get home (only 2 blocks from the FIT campus), i'll dig through stuff
- and see what i know...the FCC tape recording is saying 12 weeks at the
- outside.
-
- if you did take the test there at fit (November 20), call me -- 724-6183.
- with a 10 week cycle it could be next week to almost the end of February (and
- hamdom begins to sound like a Cap'n Crunch at the Campgrounds commercial
- again).
-
- SCATG needs some new contacts there on campus with the radio club now that
- eric was graduated and brian apparently didn't come back (and that means we
- need to change the sign in the window of WB4ABK again...)...and i see R. H.
- infrequently at best. KI4TG and KB4KQF are both out of the FIT loop as well.
-
- 73,
-
- bill wb9ivr
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 14:57:58 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!world!dts@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: FCC form 610-V
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2i9483$n3c@cronkite.nersc.gov> Greg@epitome.er.doe.gov (Greg Chartrand) writes:
- >In the FCC announcement regarding vanity callsigns, they stated that
- >every application for a specific callsign would have to be made on a
- >form 610-V. I called the FCC in Washington and they said no such form
- >exists. Knowing our government, it probably will take a year or two to
- >design one, and another year or two to have it approved and printed in
- >quantity.
- >
- >Does a form 610-V already exist in some dusty government warehouse?
- >
- >Greg
- >WA9EYY/3
-
- You might want to wait until the "vanity" call sign program is actually
- adopted. So far, they've just put out a notice of PROPOSED rulemaking.
- Now is the time for comments, etc. The rule must go through a review
- process with public comment before it can be enacted.
-
- --
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
- Daniel Senie Internet: dts@world.std.com
- Daniel Senie Consulting n1jeb@world.std.com
- 508-365-5352 Compuserve: 74176,1347
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 14:50:16 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!cs.umd.edu!ra!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: FCC form 610-V
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2i9483$n3c@cronkite.nersc.gov> Greg@epitome.er.doe.gov (Greg
- Chartrand) writes:
- > In the FCC announcement regarding vanity callsigns, they stated that
- > every application for a specific callsign would have to be made on a
- > form 610-V.
- >
- > [the rest deleted]
-
- So what's all this stuff about vanity callsigns? Is it now, or will it
- be possible in the future to choose your own callsign, assuming, of
- course, that someone else doesn't already have it? (I wouldn't mind
- getting W4DMD.) I've been marginally active for the past four years, so
- I'm not familiar on the latest changes to the rules and regulations.
-
- BTW, in the latest issue of QST I noticed that most of the two by three
- amateur callsigns (technician/general) have be issued. I assume that the
- FCC is now issuing novice callsigns to new tech/tech+/general licensees.
- Is this true? In light of this, is there any serious talk about reissuing
- callsigns from expired licenses?
-
- -Dave
- --
- David M. Drumheller, KA3QBQ phone: (202) 767-3524
- Acoustics Division, Code 7140 fax: (202) 404-7732
- Naval Research Laboratory
- Washington, DC 20375-5350 e-mail: drumhell@claudette.nrl.navy.mil
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jan 1994 11:56:15 -0500
- From: sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!udel!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!news.clark.net!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: htx-202 or dj-162 ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <ah301-260194121225@129.228.248.39>,
- Jerry Sy <ah301@yfn.ysu.edu> wrote:
- >I have pretty much narrowed down my choice to these two 2m ht's.
-
- >I'd like to get comments and opinions from people in the net who
- >have actually used both.
- >currently, I am leaning towards the dj-162 because of its wide
- >receive.
-
- The HTX202 is a good radio. It comes with the CTCSS, DTMF squelch, and
- it can store telephone numbers. It has 14 memories, I think.
-
- Matt Roberts N3GZM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Jan 1994 01:04:09 GMT
- From: caen!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!eng.ufl.edu!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!udel!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.@@envoy.wl.com
- Subject: Is portable radio use possible in remote wilderness areas?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Matthew Harrington (ph600fgr@sdcc14.ucsd.edu) wrote:
- : I do much backpacking, and increasingly I go alone. I'm thinking
- : about the possibility of bringing a communications radio with
- : me. Do these things have a large enough range to work out in
- : the wilderness? I typically find myself only in California.
-
- : What's the cost involved, and how big are the radios?
-
- You can usually "work out in the wilderness", but your question is
- rather vague. Are you a ham? Do you want two-way communications?
- Do you want world-wide communications or just local capability for
- emergencies? If we had a clue, we could help you! ;-)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jan 1994 16:41:33 GMT
- From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!bobw@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Is there a faq list for GMRS?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Frank J. Reda (reda@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote:
- : Does anyone know where I could get more info on GMRS (general mobile
- : radio service).
-
- : Specifically, how to apply for a license, and is there a test involved?
-
- : TIA,
- : FRank
-
- : ----
- : Frank J. Reda, Assistant Director, Rutgers University Computing Services
- : reda@gandalf.rutgers.edu
-
- Check the rec.radio.cb FAQ.
-
- I know, its not really cb, but it used to be.
-
- Bob
-
- Bob Witte / HP PMO (Colo Springs) / bobw@col.hp.com / KB0CY / (719) 590-3230
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 17:05:01 GMT
- From: sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Need info on CCW
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In <SPEMG1.6.000A3618@cf.ac.uk>, SPEMG1@cf.ac.uk writes:
- >I need info on Coherent CW (Rigs, Kits, Books etc.). Can anybody point me to
- >the right direction please
-
- G3IRM publishes the "Coherent CW Newsletter"; the latest issue is #25,
- January 1994. He asks 2 PS for a year's subscription, and I imagine
- he'd be an excellent source of additional information.
-
- Peter Lumb, G3IRM
- 2 Briarwood Avenue
- Bury St. Edmunds
- Suffolk IP33 3QF
-
- P.J. Rovero Internet: rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil
- Code OC/Rv Packet: kk1d@k6ly
- Naval Postgraduate School
- Monterey, CA 93943
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 11:48:53 GMT
- From: usc!sdd.hp.com!apollo.hp.com!hpwin052!hpqmoea!dstock@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Of Wouff Hongs and Royal Rites
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Jeffrey Wittich (jwittich@b4pph107.bnr.ca) wrote:
- : Hi, everybody. Well, its about spring, and that means we are
- : getting ready for the local HamFest round here. Im looking
- : at the hamfest flyer, and one on the events listed is
- : The Royal Order of Whoff Hong Induction. Well ya see, Im kind
- : of a new guy, and dunno what thats all about.
-
- There is some confusion between the induction rite into the order
- (said to be not too bad) and the Wouff-Hongg itself (said to be worse
- than can be imagined)
-
- If the latter, then the answers would be:
-
- : 1. Is it something that the OFs will enjoy at us new guys expense?
-
- Absolutely not. some would be having painful memories, the rest
- would be having squeamishness attacks.
-
-
- : 2. Is it an event that I would prefer no one had a camera at?
-
- Yes. Even newsteams understand that any videotape would be
- un-broadcastable. Tabloid journalists would similarly recognise it as
- unacceptable even in their publications. Private photography is the
- risk.
-
- : 3. Would I be any less likely to get home that night than any
- : other night?
-
- Not just one night.
-
- : 4. Will my health insurance cover anything thats likely to happen?
-
- Irrelevant.. you would not dare claim.
-
- : 5. Is there a potential for any embarassment to any involved?
-
- There would be too much distraction for embarassment
-
- : 6. Could I be black-mailed for being there?
-
- Unlikely, because the blackmailer would be aware of what he faced
- if caught.
-
- : 7. Why am I so paranoid about this?
-
- Survival instinct.
-
- : Thanks guys, and heres the Email address:
- : jwittich@b4pph107.bnr.ca
-
- : I will let you know what happened (maybe) in May.
- : C ya.
-
- : --------------------------------------------------------------------------
- : -=Jeff=- AC4ZO BNR claims they know nothing of my employment
- : here. Specially when my attorney calls.
- : --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- Be sure to check that it's just the induction........
-
- Cheers
- David
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 00:58:29 GMT
- From: caen!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!eng.ufl.edu!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla@envoy.wl.com
- Subject: Of Wouff Hongs and Royal Rites
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Has induction to the royal order always been open, or was it at one time
- "by invitation only" ?
-
- thanks,
- Dan
- --
- *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
- * Daniel D. Todd Packet: KC6UUD@KE6LW.#nocal.ca.usa *
- * Internet: ddtodd@ucdavis.edu *
- * Snail Mail: 1750 Hanover #102 *
- * Davis CA 95616 *
- *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
- * I do not speak for the University of California.... *
- * and it sure as hell doesn't speak for me!! *
- *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 04:29:34 GMT
- From: library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hplextra!hpfcso!hplvec!tcline@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: QST Article on Balloon Tracking using GPS Rcvr
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In rec.radio.amateur.misc, hpeach@ca.uky.edu (Harold G. Peach Jr.) writes:
- > Several months ago there was an article in QST about a guy that was
- > tracking balloons using data from a GPS receiver, transmitted back to a
- > ground station. He had written a spreadsheet in MS-Excell that would
- > graph the balloon's flight path based on the points reported back by the
- > GPS receiver. Does anyone have a copy of his spreadsheet or the
- > algorithim he used? Please e-mail me at <hpeach@ca.uky.edu>.
- >
- > ---
- > Harold
- > hpeach@ca.uky.edu
-
-
- Hi Harold,
-
- The article was "Persistence Gets the Derelict" (QST, August 1993, p35)
- about our Edge of Space Sciences (EOSS) sixth balloon flight that we
- launched near Denver but which took off for Nebraska.
-
- Paul Ternlund, WB3JZV created the Macintosh PowerBook Excel program to
- track the balloon's position as determined by the radio
- direction-finding tracking team. Paul's phone is 303-699-7479 and his
- email address is paul.ternlund@filebank.com .
-
- That was EOSS-6 in May 1992, when we were experimenting with VOR
- reception on the balloon. Since then we have had several successful
- Loran-C balloon payloads with AX.25 packet telemetry and sponsored a
- National Balloon Symposium. We hope our next EOSS-15 in February will
- provide our first onboard GPS receiver AX.25 telemetry.
-
-
- 73
-
- ----
- Ted Cline, N0RQV Home: 3202 Spruce Drive
- ted_cline@hpisla.lvld.hp.com Fort Collins, CO 80526-1044 USA
- (303) 493-1136
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Jan 94 09:24:09 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcomsv!lavc!steven.rosenberg@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- jeffl@comix.UUCP (Jeff Liebermann) writes:
-
- > 6. The Ramsey kits are not state of the art, high quality,
- > or a fabulous bargain. They are adequate for the purpose intended:
- > a kit for those that still believe that radio construction is a
- > part of ham radio and that believe they may profit from the
- > experience. If the lack of accessories is offensive, please
- > consider that anyone who builds their own equipment, is quite
- > likely to have a supply of suitable microphones, speakers, and
- > boxes.
-
- I didn't say that Ramsay should include microphones, speakers or boxes,
- just that pegging the kits as existing ONLY for the thrill of
- construction and not to produce a useable radio.
-
- If this is the case, shouldn't Ramsay's ads lead off with the following
- words in big letters:
-
- DO NOT USE THIS AS YOUR PRIMARY RADIO. ONLY PURCHASE THIS KIT IF YOU
- PRIZE THE THRILL OF CONSTRUCTION FAR ABOVE ANY PRACTICAL USE OF SAID
- EQUIPMENT.
-
- On the contrary, I think Ramsay is trying to push these kits to people
- who "can't afford" a pre-made Japanese radio. And that is a travesty.
-
- Steven Rosenberg, KC6FYL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 22:53:58 GMT
- From: caen!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!eng.ufl.edu!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!wa4mei.ping.com!ke4zv!gary@@envoy.wl.com
- Subject: Sideband Technology Inc.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CKAu6K.4Hy@freenet.carleton.ca> ab376@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mike Ligeza) writes:
- >
- >Recently liberated from our corp. lab, what appears to be a VHF
- >Transceiver. Rig was built by Sideband Technology Inc. of Scottsville
- >N.Y. Model number is the ACSB Pioneer 1000. Appears to be a 4 Channel
- >Xtal controlled with Xtals for 154.450 Mhz. Looks like a straight forward
- >VHF rig from the Main board, but underneath is another board chock full of
- >chips in what appears to be the audio section.
- >
- >Anybody any info on these rigs? Would love a manual or even a schematic.
-
- This sounds like one of the test rigs for Amplitude Compandored Single
- SideBand. This is the mode UPS was going to use in taking over the
- 220-222 MHz spectrum before they decided to go with cellular phone,
- but after we lost the spectrum.
-
- It's basically a single sideband radio with the audio compandored with
- a 2:1 compandor like dbx, and with a pilot tone injected for compandor
- tracking and AFC. It was supposed to give FM convienence in an SSB
- bandwidth. If you strip out the compandor and the pilot tone generator,
- you can move it to 2 meters where it can serve as a 4 channel SSB rig.
- Probably not worth the effort though.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 16:35:55 GMT
- From: sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!milo.mcs.anl.gov!ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV!B10990@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Where is FAQ on EMF?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <9401251935.AA14487@metro.mccneb.edu>
- pmarsh@metro.mccneb.EDU (Paul Marsh) writes:
-
- >
- >A friend in Seattle is looking for info on electro-magnetic fields (EMF).
- >Gary Coffman mentioned a FAQ dealing with the subject. Could Gary or
- >someone please advice where I might ftp a copy? If anyone knows of other
- >relevant materials, bibliographies, etc., could you please send them to
- >me? (Please send direct -- avoid clogging the bandwidth.)
- >
- >Thanks. Paul Marsh N0ZAU pmarsh@metro.mccneb.edu
- ==============================
- I have the FAQ and it is EXCELLENT! Available by anonymous ftp from
- rtfm.mit.edu in /pub/usenet-by-group/news.answers/powerlines-cancer-FAQ
-
- Gary E. Myers CIH BITnet: B10990@ANLVM
- Environment, Safety and Health Division Internet: GEMYERS@ANL.GOV
- Bldg. 200 Phone: (708)252-5642
- Argonne National Laboratory FAX: (708)252-7608
- Argonne IL 60439 AX.25: K9CZB@W9QVE.IL.USA.NA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jan 1994 01:06:59 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!mcdphx!schbbs!mothost!delphinium.cig.mot.com!cherokee3!clinehe@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994Jan24.190117.4386@ncsu.edu>, <CK5w6v.1Ey@ucdavis.edu>, <5KJHjGG8ynrC053yn@dorsai.dorsai.org>ineh
- Reply-To : clinehe@rtsg.mot.com
- Subject : Re: WWCR 5.810MHZ 8pm 12pm Eastern(CHECK IT OUT!!)
-
- In article <5KJHjGG8ynrC053yn@dorsai.dorsai.org>, bigsteve@dorsai.dorsai.org (Steve Coletti) writes:
- |> |> The show is anything but religion, you see WWCR also means World Wide
- |> Conspiricy Radio. Anyone want to take a vote on starting an
- |> alt.radio.conspiricy newsgroup for WWCR listeners? C'mon all you Tom
- |> Valentine and Pastor Pete fans, this is for you.
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- Don`t forget the Hour of the Time with William Cooper!
- They are usually entertaining and address subjects you won't here elsewhere.
- How about alt.new_world_order?
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